Don't be a fool and die for your country. Let the other sonofabitch die for his. -- General George S. Patton
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February 04, 2005It's Fun To Shoot Some PeopleMarine general: It's 'fun to shoot people' Commandant gives counsel, acknowledges wrong word choice A three-star Marine general who said it was "fun to shoot some people" should have chosen his words more carefully, the Marine Corps commandant said Thursday. Why should he have chosen his words more wisely? Everyone is thinking it, Lt. Gen. James Mattis, just had the balls to say it. Semper Fi, General! Have we already forgotten the 3,000 plus Americans that were butchered on September 11, 2001? What about Nick Berg and Paul Johnson and numerous other innocents brutally beheaded by terrorists. That is a sad fact about our society. We are a nation full of fair weather patriots. Had General Mattis made this same remark on 9/12/01 he would have had the support of all the major main stream media outlets and the American people. "Actually it's quite fun to fight them, you know. It's a hell of a hoot," Mattis said, prompting laughter from some military members in the audience. "It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up there with you. I like brawling. Abso-Fuckin'-lutely! These animals treat their camels and their goats better than their wives and children. They want to destroy anything that resembles civilized society. Crush everything that is knowledge, advancement. Live in the stone age and force everyone around you to do the same thing. Mattis' press office has not yet responded to a request to answer questions about his comments. General Hagee didn't need to defend General Mattis, he is a three star general in the United States Marine Corps. He has risen to a position within our military that such a small fraction of our population could ever hope to achieve. He is responsible for thousands of American lives and billions of dollars worth of equipment. The man has seen the harsh reality of war and tells it like it is! "Throughout our history, Marines have given their lives in the defense of this nation and human rights around the globe," Hagee's statement read. "When necessary, this commitment helps to provide us the fortitude to take the lives of those who oppress others or threaten this nation's security. This is not something we relish, yet we accept it as a reality in our profession of arms." I can't imagine any sane person enjoying taking the life of another human being. But when you have seen your troops die for another nation and then seen people of that nation try to kill you for it, it changes a person. Call his remarks flippant, inappropriate, and rude or politically incorrect. Call it what you want. I call it the harsh reality of war. Semper Fidelis General Mattis. SlagleRock Out! **UPDATE**Since I am getting quite a bit of traffic from Fazed.org I thought I'd say hello to anyone who came from this page. However since it is obviously a liberal agenda page, I'll say this. I don't think the General enjoys killing people, nor do I think he meant to berate or belittle Muslims, I do however think that he has lived the harsh reality of war and until you have you are not fit to judge. Remember when you were a kid, "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me." Find a real issue and give it half as much effort as the Libtards of the world put into trying to be politically correct and maybe just maybe we wouldn't need to defend real patriots or fight wars, maybe this would be a better place for everyone to live. **UPDATE**The Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Muslim civil liberties group, called on the Pentagon to discipline Mattis for the remarks. Sporting event? Pardon my French but Fuck You Asshole! General Mattis was talking about scum like the Taliban and foreign insurgents. He wasn't talking in general or about all Muslims. He wasn't referring to law abiding, Allah fearing Muslims. Don't get your towel on too tight, your little pee brain might pop out of your ear. Others covering this: Spats at the Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler Posted by SlagleRock at February 4, 2005 12:04 AMComments
I do not have the time anymore for the PC/LSM. The sad thing is that they are offended by this, and not the brutal murders by the terrorists. To them whiney sheep I say F@$K off Yeah..... I love shooting people! We should pay one of those piss bags to kill a bunch of the terrorists, and have him come to collect a reward, and then I'll shoot them. Posted by: The Middle Slagle at February 3, 2005 11:36 PMI normally do not have that high of an opinion of O-7's and up, seeing that they almost have to be politicians to make it to that rank (retired enlisted showing his prejudices, what can I say). This one at least isn't a Perfumed Prince of the Pentagon. Keep and promote! Posted by: tweell at February 4, 2005 06:01 AMBravo for the general, he speaks what every soldier has felt when they've had the chance to equal the score. It is better to give than receive, if more of the PC crowd would participate in the freedom process instead of talking about it they too would come to the same conclusion. Get some! Posted by: Jack at February 4, 2005 07:49 AM"General Hagee didn't need to defend General Mattis, he is a three star general in the United States Marine Corps.." Only three?? For his honest, well-needed attitude alone, Bush needs to slap a -fourth- star on this guy! Any chance of him sparring with Gen. Weasley Clark? :) Posted by: B.G. Acheff at February 4, 2005 01:08 PMI would say that LtGen Mattis was the type of soldier that men would follow into ANY hell. He SHOULD be placed in line to be the next Commendant of the Marine Corps. Too bad that he will probably never see another star and be quietly retired... Posted by: delftsman3 at February 4, 2005 04:09 PMOnce again, PC is more important than truth. Fuck the CAIR, they are nothing more than a funding front for the islamonazis killing our troops and innocent civilians. Gen Mattis is a true warrior and his comments are being taken completely out of context. I'm sure msm and the left will create such a stink as to call for his resignation or some such bullshit. Fucking assholes. Posted by: Theresa at February 4, 2005 04:18 PMI linked you, as a commenter, into Fazed. If that's not cool I can talk to a moderator to get the post pulled. As for the Liberal Agenda, It's not quite the purpose of Fazed.org to have a political agenda. The front page is a pretty unbiased mix of general interest humor, games, and boobs, and the forum is more of a community for recreational chatter. Every now and then I, and a few others will duke it out with the liberals, but for the most part it's pretty light hearted. I linked you into an open political dialog thread simply to give a different point a view for a guy who I know does not share yours. I myself haven't come down on either side of the fence on this one yet, but only because I'd really like to see the rest of the dialog from the panelists. I'm inclined to want to side with the General on this one, but his use of the word fun is a little over the top. It's just to kill them, honorable to kill them, his duty to kill them, he can take pride in killing them, but fun is a little to serial killer for me. A transcript of the panel discussion might clear this all up... Posted by: Fangbeer at February 4, 2005 06:21 PMHere lies a smart ass comment left by a person with a fake name and fake email address. Please feel free to comment, even differ in opinion, but believe in your point of view enough to stand by it and post something worth reading and perhaps a valid URL or real email address instead of lurking in the shadows. **NOTE** Edited by site admin. Posted by: Special Needs at February 4, 2005 08:51 PMBetter? I just don't want you to shoot me over the internet for not being a good enough american. Posted by: Special Needs at February 4, 2005 09:43 PMWell at least this time there was an email address. Not sure what the joke is or your meaning with shoot over the internet, but hey if you got a laugh out of it, go with it. Besides I'd have no need/interest to shoot another American or any other non-hostile person for that matter. SlagleRock Out! Posted by: SlagleRock at February 4, 2005 09:56 PMSpecial needs? Prophetic screen name. You know, I'd prefer a person who can look at a grim situation and a nasty, dirty, dehumanizing job and find some humor in it. Cops and Firemen are famous for their sick humor, as are ER docs and trauma nurses. I suppose because they make light of something they are forced to do day in and day out, they are evil, insensitive, uncaring bastards? Get a life. A real one. Posted by: Mamamontezz at February 4, 2005 10:02 PMI just thought it was funny that you described fazed as a "liberal adgenda page," when its adgenda leans more toward looking at pictures of boobies and kids falling off skateboards. Posted by: Special Needs at February 4, 2005 10:06 PMA guy posting on the internet on Friday night to tell another guy posting on the internet on Friday night to "Get a life" is much funnier than than the jokes that fireman and cops make. I believe it is you, sir, who has the life that he should be getting. Posted by: Special Needs at February 4, 2005 10:08 PMHmm. This "mama" is at home, after a long shift at the hospital earning a living to support the family. Sure, I could be out boozing with the girls, or shopping at the 24 hour Walmart, but I'd much rather be online seeking the insipid and adolescent with no lives in my nephew's comment thread. And look, I was very successful this evening. Posted by: Mamamontezz at February 4, 2005 10:12 PMMamaMontezz is a woman, hence the name Mama As for my referring to Fazed as liberal, that was merely based on the page that I entered where it was one bleeding heart after another crying because an American General made an "innapropriate" remark. I too am all for "boobies", but the focus of this post was our biased media and just how many Americans take for granted their freedoms without considering the people who secure those freedoms. And if in fact Fazed is as juvenile as you describe that would explain the total lack of respect for General Mattis and others like him. The young generation is the one we need to beware of, at the rate they gobble up all the LibTard spewage by the time I am a senior citizen we won't have any freedoms, will pay taxes to the UN, and will likely be run by outside organizations. SlagleRock Out! Posted by: SlagleRock at February 4, 2005 10:18 PMMama, You've been very unpleasant to me. You've made fun of my handle (which refers to my disabilities), you've called into question the existence of my life, twice! Your nephew, on the otherhand, is polite. I don't want to besmirch his message board with an argument with his kin, so I won't stoop to responding to your insults. I'll even comment on the post that brought us together: It's a little silly for people to get in a twist when a warrior admits he likes to kill people. Why else would you be a warrior? But on the other hand, that general ought to know better. Hardly anyone enjoys being confronted with the nuts-and-bolts bloodlust needed to maintain our empire. It's like masturbation: everyone does it, but you really should keep it to yourself in polite company. Posted by: Special Needs at February 4, 2005 10:23 PMI don't know, SlagleRock. I re-read that fazed thread that referenced your site, and I see a full spectrum of opinions on the matter expressed intelligently, humorously, and with respect for opposing viewpoints. On your site, however,I find one single viewpoint, a complete dehumaniziation and dismissal of anyone who would deign to disagree with you hardline stance, and I'm immediatly insulted by a total stranger upon posting. Which site seems more juvenile to you? Which site seems more American? My America is made of people of all viewpoints, colors, creeds and ideologies, all treated with respect. PS--It's your house, and just say the word and I'll leave it. Posted by: Special Needs at February 4, 2005 10:32 PMInteresting, you believe that I responded inappropriately to your innocent, non-inflamitory comment. Let me refresh your selective memory: "A guy posting on the internet on Friday night to tell another guy posting on the internet on Friday night to "Get a life" is much funnier than than the jokes that fireman and cops make." Now, first we have gender confusion, then the aspursion on my personal life. Yet you insist on your innocence and the unprovoked nature of my "attack" upon your so-called "life." Now, as to the screen name issue. Unless your intention is to draw attention to the Special Needs you have, it was a decidedly poor choice of names. If it is, however, a bid for attention based upon your needs, shame on you. I would never begin to draw attention to mine by using such a transparent device. And yes, I do. And no, it's far from psychological or emotional. I deal with them, and most people don't even notice them because I'm loath to call any sort of attention to them Again. Get a life. Posted by: Mamamontezz at February 4, 2005 10:34 PMOn your site, however,I find one single viewpoint, a complete dehumaniziation and dismissal of anyone who would deign to disagree with you hardline stance, and I'm immediatly insulted by a total stranger upon posting. First, I welcome all opinions, but as one may expect people who tend to agree with my viewpoints are the ones who visit most often. As for the insult, that was defense to the shoot me remark. The military is not full of uneducated rednecks and we are not all warmongering baby killers. The USAF is better educated than most major corporations. No one likes war or death, at least no sane person, but I would gladly go if it meant my children won't have to endure a loss of freedoms or security. Juvenile, perhaps both on different levels and perhaps because We allow our differing opinions to anger us. You are welcome to visit everyday and offer your opinions just keep it civil and I will do the same. As for my readers, they are also entitled to their opinions and if they "insult" you that is on them, not me. SlagleRock Out! Posted by: SlagleRock at February 4, 2005 10:37 PMMama, I won't dignify you with any further response. Slag, the shoot me thing was just a joke. Ha ha! I think some people do like war and death, though. I mean, that General said it was fun. And a lot of people in the military seem to enjoy what they do. I don't blame them. I'm sure war is really exciting, and if you can totally dehumanize your enemy, shooting at him would be like Halo, only 100 times more rad because it's real. So, yeah, I think people really enjoy fighting wars. SN, War is hell. Plain and simple. I have seen things that I am quite sure I could have gone my whole life without seeing. I have been places and done things that I wouldn't wish on anyone, however I'd do them again to keep our nation great. While at the moment dehumanizing the enemy may work it is still a burden you bear for the rest of your days. I don't take this war lightly, but I also get sick of all the bleeding hearts, we hate the war, but support the troops, it just doesn't work like that. If you denounce all that we do, it is only natural that "we support our troops" doesn't mean shit. I just wish the media would relax its bias or at least be biased for the home team. I wish more people would've said thank you for your service before 9/11 scared the hell out of them. I wish people would acknowledge that this nation is nothing without its military. SlagleRock Out! Posted by: SlagleRock at February 4, 2005 10:53 PMI never asked you to dignify me. I have no need of the "dignity" you might diegn to toss my way. My dignity was earned, long ago, by no one but me. I've never asked for, nor demanded any Dignity from anyone. "So, yeah, I think people really enjoy fighting wars." Yes, some people do. You see it all the time, in the real world and online. They look for reasons to snipe, they take pleasure in their little "jokes" and they do it at the expense of others. It's just so much fun. Save your dignity. You need it much more than I do. Posted by: Mamamontezz at February 4, 2005 10:54 PMIt's contradictory for you to say "no one enjoys war," when defending a general for saying, basically, "I enjoy war." You and I agree on the "support the troops but not the war" thing, though. But I imagine we're on opposite sides of the coin. Posted by: Special Needs at February 4, 2005 11:09 PM"mama, you've been very unpleasant to me." SN, You have no concept of what she would have done to you if she HAD been "unpleasant" to you. The General did NOT say that war was fun, he said it was fun to deliver well deserved justice to the kind of slime that would kidnap a Downs Syndrome teenager and force him to be a suicide bomber. I would consider it a pure PLEASURE to deliver some well placed rounds into such slime. And it's SLAGLE...or SR.. NOT "Slag" have a modicum of respect, if you wish to receive it in return. All I've seen thus far is a petulant child trying to talk with the adults. Now go have some cookies and milk to sooth your shattered nerves. And it's SLAGLE...or SR.. NOT "Slag" have a modicum of respect, if you wish to receive it in return. Thanks Delftsman, Slag does sound a bit disrespectful. SR is fine if anyone wants to be more personal, or just lazy. SlagleRock Out! Posted by: SlagleRock at February 5, 2005 08:13 AMDelftsman3 (note complete name): Shattered nerves? Please. I'm really not interested in internet arguments, but jesus, you people are so incredibly insulting. It's possible to disagree with someone's position and not cast juvenile aspersions on them. Internet arguments are SO 1997. Anyway, enough about your abrasive style. On topic: Here's the quote: "Actually it's quite fun to fight them, you know. It's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up there with you. I like brawling." You think the the general isn't saying "I enjoy war?" If he's trying to express some other meaning here, I can't imagine what it is, or how someone could interpret his quote any other way. But like I said before, I don't blame the guy, and I'm not surprised, either. Of course a General enjoys war. Bloodlust is part of human nature. If anything, the general is being a lot more forthright and honest than the people being all, "He really meant, 'I don't enjoy war' when he said ,'I like brawling.' You're putting words in someone's mouth you've never met, twisting his meanings, and creating your own interpretations. Kind of like the "liberal media." Posted by: Special Needs at February 5, 2005 08:43 AMSpecial Needs: "...I'm really not interested in internet arguments, but jesus, you people are so incredibly insulting. It's possible to disagree with someone's position and not cast juvenile aspersions on them. Internet arguments are SO 1997." Which is why, no doubt, you've been chumming the waters so avidly. Just sayin'. Cordially, de Doc Posted by: De Doc at February 8, 2005 04:55 AMWhat do you mean? I've been super nice to everyone, other than a joke about how funny "blood and guts" rhetoric is on the Internet. Posted by: Special Needs at February 8, 2005 12:46 PMPost a comment
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