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March 08, 2005Treating Illegal Aliens With Greater Respect And Trust Than Our Own CitizensThis just makes me sick. The state of Maine issues ID card and drivers licenses to aliens that are valid beyond the expiration of their passports and/or visa's. My name is Jennifer Pease and I am here to give testimony in favor of LD 501. I work at the bureau of Motor Vehicles, and I have taken vacation time to be here today as a private citizen. I do not represent the Bureau in any way. As a matter of fact, the only endorsement I have from the Bureau is Secretary Dunlap graciously letting me know that he supports my desire as a private citizen to do something about an issue I feel strongly about. This absolutely makes me sick. So basically a terrorist could come to this country on a visa wait until a day or two before it expires and then go to the state of Maine and get a drivers license or state ID card that would be valid for years beyond the Visa. Why not just give them a "bypass security" card to make their efforts even easier. I think the outcome could have been different if those licenses had expired when their visas did. If they had not been provided a credential to take the place of their passport with the expired visas, perhaps some wouldn't have been permitted to board a plane. Sounds to me like part of the state had the right idea, but politics beat out common sense. An Egyptian national came into the Portland branch with his attorney and wanted to transfer his license from New York to Maine. The attorney said his client was a New York resident, had never been a Maine resident, and had no intention of ever moving to or living in Maine, but he wanted a Maine license. He could not renew his New York license because he was an illegal alien. The attorney went on to say he had contacted (at the time Secretary Gwadosky's) office, and was told that we would be able to provide a license for his client. She issued a drivers license to a man in deportation status?!? Makes me a bit upset to know I was born in that state. So, where are we now? Current Bureau policy is to ignore the expiration dates on passports and visas, and to knowingly issue licenses and ID cards to illegal aliens. This whole situation just makes my blood boil. A person with a valid ID or drivers license is rarely asked for any other type of identification and in the mind of most screeners would automatically be viewed as a legal resident of the state that issued the ID or license. The implications are mind boggling. It is like handing the bomb and the access to a terrorist. I am grateful that there are people like Jennifer Pease who are willing to stand up for what is right. Wake up America, if we keep handing them access it is only going to get worse. H/T to Mamamontezz for the link. SlagleRock Out! Comments
Driver Licenses are issued by the State Governments, whereas Passports and Immigration documents are issued by the National Government. According to our Constitution, all powers not delegated to the National Government is reserved for the States or People. What this article describes to me is the ineffectiveness of the DHS in enforcing their own byzantine immigration laws and then expecting the less-endowed State governments, like Maine to their work for them - a de facto "Federal Mandate". Maine has recently earned the reputation of treating people who are less fortunate in their legal status with respect and dignity. The people of Maine will decide who the Maine government issues Maine identification to, not D.C. Posted by: Collin Baber at March 8, 2005 04:43 AM That is pure sophistry Mr Baber. Treating people with respect and dignity doesn't mean that you ignore common sense and allow illegals valid identification. A state can not abet a federal law being broken. That some may slip by would be understandable, but to KNOWINGLY abet a person committing an illegal act is far beyond "doing the work" for the INS. A requirement of having a valid Visa/Passport for a resident alien to obtain a drivers license is not abrogating the states rights. It doesn't affect legal aliens in any way, other than to have a valid ID, which is required of Citizens as well. Posted by: delftsman3 at March 8, 2005 11:20 AMMainely Canadian Eh. Posted by: Jack at March 9, 2005 09:27 AMMaine may be just another Canadian province.Or so it seemed to me,during my four years of residence there. Posted by: PappaSlagle at March 10, 2005 06:35 PMPerhaps I didn't understand the question. I don't see how Maine is treating some people better than others - would you be willing to explain? Posted by: Collin Baber at March 12, 2005 01:10 AMCollin, Apparently you also cannot read. Ms Pease states specifically in her testimony that a citizen could not be issued a license based on the documentation proffered by the illegal aliens. One would think that even the LLL would be able to understand that the citizens of the US and the state should be treated at least as well as the illegal aliens. Posted by: dick at March 13, 2005 03:42 PMMs. Pease had been given authorization by her superiors to issue the license. For the applicant's sake, the decision to issue was not hers to make. It is good she had redressed government of her grievance. Let's see what happens. I'm not sure that issuing a driver's license at the state level is abetting an illegal act at the national level. To me, the two issues seem independent of each other. Why is it so dangerous for those whose national-level papers are out of order to have a driver license anyway? Is it a fear of driving or something else? For example, they can board planes without driver licenses. Posted by: Collin Baber at March 13, 2005 04:46 PMDriver's license should not be used as ID for border crossings, public transportation system (trains, bus, airplanes). A driver's license purpose is to certify that an individual can operate a motor vehicle. A National ID card should be use for all of the above mention things. ID should be a federal thing and not be at the state level. Everybody is worry about privacy issues but you have to give up something for national security. Its just ridiculous that we use driver's license as ID especially when there's more than 50 styles of driver's license. One last thing, people that need their work visa renew every yr (especially when waiting for their green card to process) will have to go renew their driver's license every year. Also there might be times that they are still technically legal alien residents but they won't have their new visa yet showing their term of stay. So does that mean that they won't be allow to drive since their previous driver's license would've expire and dmv won't let them renew it since they don't have their new visa yet. Just think about this for a moment. We're really on human beings just that our status is different. It doesn't make it any better that freedom of mobility is taken away. Posted by: anonymous at August 13, 2005 11:44 PMPost a comment
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