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October 10, 2004Navy Seal Examines Kerry's Military RecordI found this bit of information on the AM810 News Radio Website, Thanks Mama. Navy SEAL examines Kerrys Military Record SEALED MILITARY RECORD? by A. L. "Steve" Nash Not that ANY of this surprises me. What does surprise me however are the people out there who elected this criminal to the senate and the people who are trying (and hopefully failing) to get him elected to the White House. Kerry is a traitor, a liar and criminal. He never should have been elected as dick head #1 on his block let alone to the U.S. Senate and he damn sure shouldn't be elected to the White House. BUSH-CHENEY '04 SlagleRock Out! Comments
I've suspected for some time now that Kerry has a less than honorable initial discharge that he lobbied to get changed to honorable, more disturbing is what the hell is a traitor doing in the U.S. Senate and where are the ethics of the Senate? Posted by: Jack at October 10, 2004 07:22 PMI've long thought that Kerry should be serving a sentence in a cell, not serving his 4th term in the Senate. Posted by: delftsman3 at October 10, 2004 11:33 PMSure does answer an interesting question. I'll be linking to this one. Posted by: Bill Faith at October 11, 2004 01:32 AMplease send this info to Rush Limbach Posted by: philip at October 11, 2004 10:34 AMNot Suprised. Posted by: Jim McGuire at October 11, 2004 03:39 PMSign ze papers, old man! Posted by: cowboy blob at October 11, 2004 07:09 PMI'm not sure I agree (depending on the circumstances of Kerry's status while the alleged offenses were committed) that Kerry was subject to the UCMJ in the manner I think Mr. Nash intends. Using this site as a resource for the UCMJ: We find this statement: 802. ART. 2. PERSONS SUBJECT TO THIS CHAPTER (1) Members of a regular component of the armed forces, including those awaiting discharge after expiration of their terms of enlistment; volunteers from the time of their muster or acceptance into the armed forces; inductees from the time of their actual induction into the armed forces; and other persons lawfully called or ordered into, or to duty in or for training in the armed forces, from the dates when they are required by the terms of the call or order to obey it. (2) Cadets, aviation cadets, and midshipman. (3) Members of a reserve component while on inactive-duty training, but in the case of members of the Army National Guard of the United States or the Air National Guard of the United States only when in Federal Service. (4) Retired members of a regular component of the armed forces who are entitled to pay. (5) Retired members of a reserve component who are receiving hospitalization from an armed force. (6) Members of the Fleet Reserve and Fleet Marine Corps Reserve. By this logic I (retired, entitled to pay) am subject to the Code. True enough... BUT. That status is further modified by this subsequent clause (d): (d) (1) A member of a reserve component who is not on active duty and who is made the subject of proceedings under section 815 (article 15) or section 830 (article 30) with respect to an offense against this chapter may be ordered to active duty involuntary for the purpose of-- (A) investigation under section 832 of this title (article 32); (B) trial by court-martial; or (C) non judicial punishment under section 815 of this title (article 15). ****(2) A member of a reserve component may not be ordered to active duty under paragraph (1) except with respect to an offense committed while the member was (A) on active duty; or (B) on inactive-duty training, but in the case of members of the Army National Guard of the United States or the Air National Guard of the United States only when in Federal service.**** I emphasize the area between the asterisks. My understanding of this leads me to believe that unless Kerry was in duty status (entirely possible - but not asserted thus far) at the time of an alleged offense, he's not liable for it under the code. Otherwise, by the same logic, as a retired officer, any public (ala my blog) criticism of the President or his policies would be actionable under the Code as conduct predjudicial to good order and discipline. This is manifestly not the case. As a Regular Army retiree I am technically subject to recall for life (in practical terms, rule of thumb is 5 years after retirement they don't even look at you) just as someone in the Reserve is - hence why we are called the Retired Reserve. Bottom line - just because Kerry was a reservist, doesn't mean his activities were sanctionable. But - if he did drill, and used any gov't facility for any protest activity, that would be actionable. If he used his status as a Naval officer to enhance his activities, that might become actionable. But duty status matters - and just being in the Reserve isn't enough - you have to be on active duty or inactive duty for training to subject to actions.... as I understand it. Posted by: John of Argghhh! at October 13, 2004 12:32 PMDoesn't matter what his status was, other than citizen of the United States: "Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined not more than $5,000 or imprisoned not more than three years, or both." (18 U.S.C. 953; as written in 1970-71) Also, "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court." (U.S. Const., Art. III, Sec. 3) At least twice, al-Qerry privately and secretly, without lawful authorization, met with represetatives of our enemy, North Vietnam's communist dictatorship. First in May 1970 (according to his public testimony) and again during the summer of 1971 (according to FBI surviellance records on Vietnam Veterans Against the War). He should be serving prison time. Not in any public office. Navy Seal my hairy Irish ass. You hopeless old farts need to step out for a new oxygen bottle and take a Prozac. Kerry fought with the rest of us dumb slobs in the Nam. He earned the right to say whatever he wants about it. At the same time Kerry was being shot at by Vietnamese peasants for no good reason, little George was rolling up twenty dollar bills and importing large quantities of white powder up his nose. But you guys know all this already, you just want to start a fight. Well, congratulations you started one. When a big, black fella in dark green comes crashing through the Winnebago door be sure and remember how highly principled you pretended to be in the black anonymity of cyber-christianity. George Bush is a drug/drink burn-out; you don't fix that kind of brain damage, sorry. But you already know that too, doncha? Posted by: Dave Viking at October 18, 2004 12:42 PMThanks for visiting the SlaughterHouse Dave. In the hopes that you'll come back to see if you've upset anyone I thought I'd clear up a few things for you. First, you wrote, "Navy Seal my hairy Irish ass" Are you disputing the fact that MAC Nash was a SEAL? Perhaps you should address that to him. Or is it that you didn't read the article you just looked for a conservative blog and tried to heat things up? Second, if 29 years old and on active duty qualifies me as a, "hopeless old fart" I hate to imagine what life will be like at 50 or even 60. Third, I clearly support Bush and so do my regular readers so bashing Bush isn't going to change anyones mind or opinions. As for the anonymity of Cyber Chritianity (I like that term) I have no religious faith, in life, death or cyberspace. And anonymity? What anonymity? I sign all of my posts SlagleRock, a play on my last name, and if you read my comments numerous regulars call me Rob!?!? Where is the anonymity. Oh and if Bush is a "drug/drink" burnout I wouldn't know, again see 29 year old active duty. No drugs in my system. Thanks for commenting and serving (if you are a veteran). I support all Veterans and their right to vote for whomever they wish (and all non-vets for that matter). The only thing I ask is that you think about those of us on active duty now. Kerry would be a grave mistake for CIC (Commander in Chief). Oh and Dave, what is with this comment: "..just want to start a fight. Well, congratulations you started one. When a big, black fella in dark green comes crashing through the Winnebago door be sure and remember how highly principled you pretended to be ". Is that a threat? It sounded like a threat? Are you making a threat against me and my family? All readers (primarily Dave)keep this in mind. Once you have commented here the POLICE can find you. I have your IP address. Oh and Dave, I also have a .40 Caliber hand cannon (to name a few, go figure I'm a gunsmith/firearms instructor) and live within the confines of an active duty military installation. ;) SLAGLEROCK OUT! Posted by: SlagleRock at October 18, 2004 01:55 PMPost a comment
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