Since I was an ignorant troll who could not stay on subject my comments have been deleted and I have been banned from this site.

Since I was an ignorant troll who could not stay on subject my comments have been deleted and I have been banned from this site.

EV,

You are quickly becoming my favorite person. With all the kind things you have to say about me without even knowing me how could I resist your charm?

I'll start by answering your question. I can think of many ways that I would want "every" way to express my freedoms, but by your logic it should be acceptable for a person to firebomb Congress if they are protesting something. Why can't we express ourselves that way? BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL. If the President and Congress pass a law banning flag burning and the Supreme Court upholds it, then it becomes a criminal act. You will have to scratch firebombing and flag burning off of your list of ways to express yourself. That is one of the problems with this country, nothing is sacred. It is always about whom you offend and who gets their feelings hurt. There is a simple solution for that. People who don't like it here can leave! Why do you think so many millions immigrate into this country each year, it is because it is better than any other on the planet. That is not an assumption or an arrogant Americanism that is a fact. I’ve known countless immigrants that would rather die than go back to where they come from. This is a great nation and will continue to be so despite differences between people like you and I.

Now, for my buddies... Patience my friend, it is a weekend and most do their reading/commenting on weekdays, your time will come.

Not that you are worthy of any explanations but I will humor you since you seem like such a shallow person who needs it. My Nickname has been SlagleRock since I joined the Air Force in 1994. When I was just a young Airman of 19 getting my feet wet in the AF many people pronounced my name incorrectly. They pronounced is Slah-gull with a short “A” sound instead of Sleigh-Gull with a long “A”. From the mispronunciation came SlagleRock or SlaggleRock from the kids show FraggleRock, people thought my name reminded them of Fraggle. It just stuck and everywhere I have gone in the last 11 years someone has known my name, so I wear it proudly. It has nothing to do with Sgt. Rock or any other comic book for that matter.

The President, you in your infinite knowledge or lack thereof, missed the part about members of the military not being permitted to talk bad about their superiors, damn military law. They take away our freedoms to establish order and ensure the safety and security of people like you and all the liberties you so clearly take for granted. Kind of ironic isn't it? I don't agree with everything the President does, in fact there are many things I disagree with, but unlike you blatantly shooting off at the mouth about it can actually be detrimental to my career.

One last issue...

Your commander in chief is a chickenhawk puppet serving the oil cartels. UAE my ass. Feeling bad? Go do something violent, it's easier on you than thinking.

IF you would have taken the time to read the FAQ and Rules of Engagement for my site you would know that the one thing I will not tolerate is badgering the troops. You don't have to agree with the current leadership in this nation, in fact you can hate everything about them, but the one thing that I don't allow people to do here is belittle and badger the troops, myself included. If you have intelligent points/counterpoints to make you are more than welcome, you can even call the President a cum guzzling gutter slut for all I care, but the one thing you can't do here is demoralize the troops. For future reference if you want to comment here keep it on subject and not about your personal misunderstandings of what it means to serve this country. If you cannot refrain from the "doodie head" game (at least when it comes to the troops) I will have you banned from my site and delete all of your comments. You have been warned!

Also, if you truly believe that violence is easier for me than intelligent thought you clearly have no idea of whom you are talking to. Violence is an ugly terrible thing, but sometimes we are left with no alternative. I personally would never harm anyone or anything except to defend myself, my loved ones and my troops.

Proudly I say...

SlagleRock Out!

Burning the American is, and should be classified as, a hate crime.

Using flag-burning as a protest is not a legitimate form of expression, what is, plain and simple, is a violent hate crime directed at America and our way of life.

It is not, and cannot be classified as free speech, it doesn't invite any sort of debate except for the kind you see here. It is an expression of hate and a desecration to something held with honor and respect by a majority of Americans.

The flag deserves special legal protection because it is the ultimate symbol of our history and heritage. The U.S. flag is an important symbol of democracy. Allowing Americans to burn it insults the millions of citizens who have fought and died to protect our way of life.

EV, you however, should feel free burn the Flag, and I'll even light the match for you, provided that you wrap yourself up in it first.

Ev, it's obvious that you are neither capable of, nor open to, reasonable discussion. If you feel the need to shit on someone's carpet, go back to crapping on your Mommy's favorite rug instead.This site os for grownups, boy.

--TwoDragons

Wow, Slagle. I'm sorry that I have been missing this! I'll link and post.... I have been neglecting my blogroll folk recently....

About EV. You know, at first I thought that he/she was going to actually have a decent debate. Nevermind. I like it when certain types of people get backed into a corner, have no response, and go "Uhm, well, you're STOOPID." I laugh at that, and at people like EV. What was that comparison about Clinton and the colors all about? I didn't understand it, nor do I really feel like re-reading it.

My personal feeling? Burning the flag is such a childish way to get your point across. Leave it to the radical islamo-fascists. That's the only alternative (other than blowing up themselves and killing innocent standers-by) because it's a purely visual thing to do. I would love for it to be illegal, but at the same time? If you can't verbally, intellectually, argue FOR or AGAINST free speech? Show everyone what a dumbass you are and just go ahead and burn the flag.

And I agree with LindaSoG. Wrap yourself in it before you burn it!

Hat's off to Ev he clearly has the courage to identify himself under the monikers of Ev "I'dgiveanythingtosuckGW'sdick" or "EVthepolesmoker" or "u790238" and "23897423984".

Quite the brave citizen when he comes to personal attacks of the host and attacks against the United States. Burning the United States flag is quite a heroic deed of the Communists, Stalinist s and Leninist s followers out there, even in our campuses of higher learning where the professors teach sedition and treason.

Which are you EV? Maybe you're just one of those Muslim fuck wits that inhabit this country, and lacks the courage to defend your own country. As a society the American public doesn't need your kind to function as members of the world community even though the rest of us will sacrifice to protect the very freedoms that allow you to practice your diatribe in public or the from skirt you've chosen to hide behind.

From the beginning of this nation it was recognized that there would be leaders, scumbag followers and chicken shit cowards. Even dick heads like that leftist hero Ward Churchill have the balls you seem to lack to identify themselves when making accusations. Therefore as a non contributor to society go hide in your anonymity we don't need you. Adults have much more sense than an obvious seminal leftist sycophant.

"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest for freedom, go home and leave us in peace. We seek not your council nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

--Samuel Adams

For someone to come into your 'house' and crap on the floor-I'd ban him! Ev, you don't have to agree with everything posted, but you really need to get a grip.

Never try to teach a pig to sing, Robbie. It wastes your time and annoys the pig. Just ban the dumb ass and be done with it.

Speaking as a very proud Military Mom, it brings me GREAT pride in knowing that TODAY's military is an all volunteer force. We don't have shitheads who don't REALLY want to be in the military.
The freedoms to even speak out in a public forum are ensured because of our military.

Kudos to you SR !!!

XO XO
Dee

Slaglerock, look at this. It is a post at my blog that I did about how our Flag was burned in our front yard. The trwo boys that is it were arrested............

Flag Burning Sons of Bitches

And EV you are full of it!!!

Thanks for all you do Slaglerock and for serving our country.

Wild Thing

Where are you Ev?

Damn, looks like I missed out on all the fun.

I guess EV went Extra Vehicular, how fitting.

Hey, where did the little self-loathing chickenjihadi go?

It's a shame some people don't have any respect for freedom of speech; that she thinks her right to hate America means the right to do whatever the hell she wants--to denigrate others' right to love their country, to destroy property, to be an asshole, etc. The only right she's expressing is her imaginary right to be offensive and stupid.

So Ev, how's that workin' out for you? Does burning a flag enrich your life? Does it make you a happier or better person? What's the fucking point in doing it, except to broadcast to the world that you're a victim of YOURSELF and that you're basically a loser?

Get help. You need it.

Sorry for coming so late to the party, but like you, Slag, I've been in and out. Looks like I missed all the fun! Darn! Bush-haters are so easy to mind-wrestle with, it's really no surprise to me that EV has decided he can't match wits in broad daylight. When he thought he had the venue all to himself, he could tear the place up without witnesses! He's like the bully who picks on the littlest kid, but runs when more than one person is around for fear of being hurt!

C'mon back, EV! We won't hurt you.

There seems to be a good possibility that EV and Elrod are no longer shuffling along in this mortal coil. My best guess is that he/she/they aspirated on their own bile and no one was in a big hurry to bring the miscreant back.

It still amazes me how you can have a verifiable LLL chickenshite fire breathing moonbat and that such a one think that all others are supposed to bow, scrape, and otherwise humiliate themselves so the azzwipe can be placated.

Then again, tomorrow is full moon so you just might have Ev/Elrod swinging in for a closer look to see if full veneration will be the order of the night.

I'm more concerned about what he's doing to this country than some symbols you pussies get your panties wadded up over.

Plenty to be concerned about, but definitely better than the alternative.

It's been nearly 20 years since we've had a President with any respect for the Constitution.

Oh and by the way, Slagle - Your admirable service in the military has not gone unappreciated. EV can go fuck himself.

RWR

Since I was an ignorant troll who could not stay on subject my comments have been deleted and I have been banned from this site.

Survey says.... Ding Ding Ding.... Wait for it...

Bill Clinton! (I've never said that Clinton wasn't a good domestic President, I have said that his foreign policy was garbage, but he was good for this economy and situations on our home turf). Secondly, if you think "Clinton" single handedly balanced the budget you are totally blind to the way our Government works (again assuming you are an American). If you think "Bush" put this nation into the war on terror all by himself, you grossly misunderstand the inner workings of our government.

Once again EV, I am not impressed, not at all.

First of all this discussion was about flag burning and desecrating the symbols of our nation. This post wasn't about praising the current administration or admonishing the past one. This discussion isn’t about what is left or right, it is simply about preserving this nation’s symbols, history and heritage.

You asked:

When was the last time anyone burned a flag in the US

Well let’s see...

I don't know about the last time (specifically the most recent)but here are examples of about 100 Flag Burnings and General Desecrations of Old Glory

If you remember this. This Ass Hole was fired, and hold on to your seat, it happened in the LEFT capital of the universe, California. Now, I know this wasn’t recent it was a week after the terrorist hijackings of Sept. 11, 2001.

Also, there was another example left by a reader, H/T to WildThing. You probably missed it in your rush to poke the President in the eye.

Just for review, here it is again:

Flag Burning Sons of Bitches

Once again your ignorance and general extreme left blithering have motivated people to do a little research and once again shut down the liberal lunacy machine.

Like I said read my FAQ and you will see that I consider myself a Liberal Conservative. Many of my beliefs are deeply seated in my moral upbringing, but I am not at all blind to reality. I am pro-choice (much to the dismay of many of my readers). I think the 'war on terror' never should have gone to Iraq (though I believe ultimately the ouster of So Damn Insane will prove to be one of the most significant moments in world history). I have many views that sit very well with the Democratic Party, the one big difference is that I think America should come first and not at the expense of our own people, our rich history or our proud heritage.

I don’t know what else to say to you EV, all I can say is I am proud to protect your 4th amendment rights. No matter what you say to or about me or any of the brave men and women in this nation willing to sacrifice all in the name of service to this great nation we will remain strong, proud and open eyed/minded. Many (I am sure to your dismay) of the men and women who serve this nation are highly educated. In my 11 years I have never had a commander with less than a Masters Degree, and I have known many Chiefs/E-9 with Masters and some even with their doctorates. I myself am just a few short months from completing two distinctly different associate degrees (one for personal reasons and one for professional reasons). Once they are out of the way I will begin working on my Bachelors. I am not set in my major, but I know ultimately when I retire from the service I want to teach U.S. History to the youth of this GREAT nation.

If you are going to comment here at least make a civil attempt to stay focused and on subject. Try and remember that not only am I pro troops, I am a troop myself.

You respect my house and I assure you, I will protect yours.

SlagleRock Out!

Since I was an ignorant troll who could not stay on subject my comments have been deleted and I have been banned from this site.

EV,

I'll start near the end of your comment and work my way back. First, I cannot speak for the others who comment here, but I can tell you that I am not "comfortably numb" as you put it. In fact it is quite the opposite. I am fully aware of all of the negative things in the Bush administration, just as I am aware of the things that the media desperately over inflates. I am in a position where I cannot afford to be “comfortably numb”. I am the one who rides in that “unarmored humvee” during military operation is Iraq, as you put it in an earlier comment.
I might be obligated to follow orders, but I am most assuredly not obligated to remain blind to the truth, or the facts. I have witnessed events first hand and then heard the spin the media puts on them. If the media were truly unbiased as they should be many Americans opinions on all of this would change, some better, some for the worse.
As far as the “facts” of torture, illegal searches, and illegal detention I won’t judge if those are facts or inflations of reality. I don’t believe that either you or I are qualified to make that judgment. I do think many things have happened that I personally don’t agree with, but it isn’t about what we agree with, it is about what the legal systems deems justifiable.
Now, for the Flag… While I think it should be revered and respected I’d never imply it should be worshipped. By sacred I and others (I believe) clearly mean respected and cherished. Yes this nation needs certain symbols. Those colors represent the struggles this nation had to endure to become a nation. They also represent the countless battles that this nation has fought to secure the freedoms of our allies and those less fortunate. Even you have to admit, if not for the United States the whole of Europe would be well in the grasp of a flourishing Communist super power.

Respect the flag, EV.

That and if you are so strong in your beliefs and convictions why do you still hide behind fake email addresses or fake URL’s?? Could it be that you are actually Elrod? Could it be that you are a student (which would explain quite a bit) at Northwestern University? Could it be that you are a staff person at NW and you wouldn’t want anyone else hearing or seeing your remarks?

Don’t be afraid to stand by your beliefs.

That’s all I am saying!

SlagleRock Out!

Since I was an ignorant troll who could not stay on subject my comments have been deleted and I have been banned from this site.